Northern Ireland Perspectives
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Commentary From The Cedar Lounge Revolution

24th June 2013

The text of this document is available here,  but as always the idea is to present not only the text of a document but a copy of it as it was published (and also to have as wide a sampling of documentation in the Archive as is possible).

On it is noted that Peter Hadden wrote this and most other documents relating to Northern Ireland. Ten pages long and written in the wake of the Anglo-Irish Agreement interestingly the Introduction focuses very strongly on the situation in Britain:

That the Tories could win a third consecutive term, despite their reactionary policies, is a searing indictment of the role of the right-wing Labour and trade union leaders over recent years. The fact that these leaders moved to the right, abandoned left and socialist policies, and distanced themselves from the struggles of the miners, print unions, Liverpool Council and others, allowed the Tories to go to the country with a significant lead in the opinion polls. During the campaign Kinnock and his right-wing handlers singularly failed to present any socialist alternative to the Tories. They relied on slick presentation which was all form and no content. The right-wing argument that socialist ideas lose votes was definitively answered by the result. According to the right, Labour fought a brilliant campaign – yet they lost moreover in those areas where the campaign and candidate were most closely associated with the right wing Labour generally got the worst result. Bryan Gould, the party’s campaign manager, managed to produce a 8.3% swing to the Tories in his own seat.

And continues:

Compare this with the achievement of four Militant supporters who fought on a clear socialist programme: Pat Wall – 9.9% swing from the SDP in Bradford North; Dave Nellist – 5.3% swing to Labour from the Tories in Coventry SE; John Bryan – 3.6% Liberal to Labour swing in Bermondsey (overall in London there was a 0.5% swing from Labour to the Tories); and Terry Fields who produced a 12.4% swing from the Tories and almost doubled his majority in Liverpool Broadgreen. The Tories won because of the failure of the Labour leaders and because they were able to partially disguise the real depths of the economic malaise which afflicts British capitalism. The election took place in the latter period of the current shaky boom in the world economy. Looming on the horizon is the prospect of a new recession at a certain stage. This Tory government, with its programme of further assaults on living standards and services will be confronted by huge movements of the working class.

And concludes in relation to this:

Even now, in this period of “boom” there has been an up-turn in the class struggle as workers have moved to demand their share of the fruits of economic growth. Defeated on the political front the working class will now have no choice but to turn to the industrial front.

In relation to Northern Ireland it suggests:

These struggles will leave their mark within the unions and within the Labour Party as workers attempt to push their organisations to the left. What has already taken place within the CPSA and the NCU is a harbinger of future developments within the labour movement as a whole. Despite the conflicting factor of sectarianism the same processes are at work in the North. The Anglo-Irish Agreement is less of a central issue than at the time this document was written. The opposition of the mass of Protestants to the accord has in no way abated. But, as the Marxists predicted in advance, the Agreement in reality has proved inoperable and has not been implemented. During the first six months of 1987 the previously much vaunted Anglo-Irish Conference has met on a grand total of two occasions! Nothing of note has come from these meetings.

And that:

Moreover the British government has been at pains to appease the Unionists. The Anglo-Irish Agreement is no longer presented as an historic breakthrough or as the basis for the final solution of the Irish question. Northern Ireland Tory spokesmen now talk of the Agreement remaining in place until something better can be negotiated. Again, as the Marxists predicted at the outset, far from concessions, the pact has produced increased repression in the Catholic areas. Loughgall not Hillsborough is the watchword of the present policy of the ruling class. Despite the opening of the talks between the Unionists and government any way out of the current political impasse is as far away as ever. It cannot be too often emphasized that no solution is possible on a capitalist basis. Even given the relative downturn in the level of sectarian violence the situation remains explosive. The breakdown of talks, the loyalist assassination campaign and the deliberately provocative escalation of the Provos’ campaign are all factors which could flip the scales in the direction of renewed sectarian bloodletting.

On a more positive note it argues that:

Nonetheless the mood of the mass of workers, Catholic and Protestant is not at present in favour of sectarian conflict. As sectarian issues have receded class issues have come to the fore. As in Britain the period immediately before and after the election has seen a sharp up-turn in the class struggle, significant strikes – by civil servants, teachers, Telecom workers, in the shipyard, in Shorts, the meat plants and in other workplaces – have taken place. Even bigger movements of the working class and of the youth are likely in the short term, but certain at some stage in the life of this government. So, paradoxically, the election defeat in Britain can act as a powerful spur to the industrial movement of the working class in the North.

And continues:

Just as the sectarian reaction of the past eighteen months unfolded in an uneven manner, so the development of the class movement will be likewise uneven. But excluding major developments which can throw things back, the most likely general line of development will be to the left. In this context the previous perspectives of the Marxists, temporarily cut across by the Anglo-Irish Agreement, for a transformation and re-transformation of the unions and the creation of a Labour Party at a certain stage, will tend to be borne out. The analysis and programme of Militant have been graphically confirmed and re-confirmed by recent events. Only on the basis of the socialist ideas we put forward can there be a way out for the working class. We have proved our ability to retain and develop these ideas under unfavourable conditions. Now events are beginning to move in our favour. The challenge now is to seize the opportunities which will present themselves and develop Marxism into a mass force among the working class.

The main bulk of the document goes into greater detail, not least in an analysis as to the rationale behind the Anglo-Irish Agreement which suggests that:

Thatcher’s handling of the 1981 hunger strikes won her government a pyrrhic victory. The prisoners were defeated but at the cost of the alienation of the Catholic population. Thatcher’s unnecessary, and, from a bourgeois point of view, stupid intransigence provided Sinn Fein with its electoral base. The hold, even the existence, of the SDLP was threatened. The Anglo-Irish Agreement was an attempt to put this right by isolating the Provos and boosting the SDLP. On every count it has been a gross miscalculation. Trying to correct one mistake the ruling class have merely compounded it with another. The problem of the minority remains unresolved but is now added to by the even bigger problem of the majority. The roots of this miscalculation lie in the government’s false estimation of the Protestant reaction to the accord. Thatcher’s original conception that the mass of Protestants would come to see the Agreement as no threat to them lies in ruins. Because of the ham-fisted manner of its introduction and because it appears to go further than it does, it has aroused such a fierce Protestant opposition that the entire thing is and will remain completely inoperable.

It is however notable how pessimistic the tone is at times:

Paisley and more particularly the “young Turks” within the DUP have been permitted to move centre stage. Future mass loyalist reaction, should it develop, would crystallise around such people. It would encompass hardliners in both Unionist parties, groups like the Ulster Clubs, the UDR ranks, and in its ultimate stages, the RUC also. The loyalist paramilitaries would be brought into tow of such a movement providing its physical force battalions. Reaction has not reached such a stage. So the “armies” formed by Paisley retain, even now, an evanescent character, yet they are not to be dismissed. Such forces are a quite serious threat in the short term. Actions such as the sealing off of villages could precipitate pogroms. Were the Anglo-Irish Agreement to be implemented these forces could swell and become a vehicle for armed reaction. They give a glimpse of what will happen in the long term if the labour movement does not provide a socialist way out for the mass of Protestant and Catholic workers.

In sum a most interesting document in relation to the views of Militant during this particular period.

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  • By: Paddy Healy Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:24:09

    In reply to Pangur ban.

    The key point is that there was a huge historic armed conflict taking place between a popular guerilla army and the main capitalist imperialist power in these isladns and the “marxists” were neutral! You are right to mention Walkerism as Haddens document is the modern equivalent .
    For those not familiar with the Connolly-Walker controversy it is here

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:54:58

    In reply to Paddy Healy.

    WbS – there is nothing to engage with – Paddy simply reproduced the same one liners that he used to all those years ago when he led the LWR

    By the way Paddy – how did your support for the ‘popular gueerilla army’ go for you. How many members did the LWR have in the North (before it imploded completely).

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:58:56

    In reply to Starkadder.

    Goes to show how little Merrigan understood about the left in Ireland.
    1. The Militant was not ‘unsympathetic to Irish Republicanism’ – the Militant held the view that the tactic of individual terror was a blind alley for the working class of the North and was incapable of defeating British Imperialism (something that has been borne out by the events of the last 40 years)
    2. The Workers Party adopted a run-of-the-mill Stalinist stages approach to the North
    3. The DSP were die-hard anti-republican two-nationists stemming from the influence of the British and Irish Communist Organisation (and Kemmy was not particularly left-wing either).

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  • By: WorldbyStorm Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:03:24

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    JRG that’s not your call to make. You know the way this site is organised. Personalised abuse of any kind is totally out of order. I’ll tolerate no more of this particularly given that your previous comments on other threads have descended into tit for tat and I’ve already called you on this. What seems to escape you is that your certainty that he’s sectarian and you’re not is not a view shared by many of us with no skin in this game.

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  • By: Joe Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:45:17

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    “The Militant was not ‘unsympathetic to Irish Republicanism’”
    Could you expand a bit further on that JRG? The corollary is that the Militant was sympathetic to Irish republicanism. Which it wasn’t, I don’t think, if you follow.

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  • By: NollaigO Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:46:52

    In reply to Pangur ban.

    Their demand for the nationalisation of the 250 monopolies also highlighted their Walkerite outlook.
    There were not 250 monopolies in the 6 Counties or in the
    32 Counties but in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland !!

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  • By: Joe Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:50:23

    In reply to Paddy Healy.

    “a popular guerilla army”. Popular, but not very popular. In the seventies, 10% support? 15%? Popular with a small minority. Tolerated by another percentage through fear and ambivalence. Hated by a majority. Feared by all.

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  • By: pangur ban Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:30:51

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    matt merrigan was an iconic figure on the left for a number of decades, and he was around irish trotskyism since the forties.
    one might disagree with him on many things but to say he lacked an undersatnding of the irish left is Orwellian

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:01:16

    In reply to Joe.

    The Militant/Socilaist Party supports the right of the working class on this island to social, political and economic emancipation. Opposition to the individual terror campaign of republican paramilitaries does not equate to support for Imperialism or Unionism (which is the usual insult tossed at the Socialist Party). If a campaign of individual terror had any chance of achieving socialst revolution that would be a different matter – but it didn’t. Individual terror is an anathema to Marxism.

    The Socialist Party opposes nationalism (as exemplified by Sinn Fein) because it is a cross-class alliance that ultimately compromises with Imperialism (like in 1922 and again in the present day).

    The Socialist Party argues that a United Ireland on the basis of capitalism is not possible and that a socialist Ireland can only emerge as part of a socialist revolution brought about by the united action of the working class on this island – Catholic and Protestand, North and South – and a process of revolution that defeats British Imperialis (i.e. would probably necessitate the destruction of the British state).

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:04:24

    In reply to pangur ban.

    Lumping the Militant, the Workers Party and the DSP into one box demonstrates all the nuances of a bull in a china shop.

    I suspect that any self-respecting member of the WP or former member of the DSP would also object to the three groups being lumped together.

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:07:00

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    WbS – I will happily engage in constructive debate with anyone – however, when someone comes out with idiotic one-liners designed to do nothing more than engage in sectarian sniping then I make no apology for being so dismissive. I suggest that you ask Paddy to base his contributions on real and concrete fact and not on the sectarian delusions he is currently manifesting. the perhaps we can have a proper debate.

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:16:56

    In reply to NollaigO.

    Maybe you can demonstrate where the Socialist Party ever said anything about ‘250 monopolies’.

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  • By: WorldbyStorm Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:12:19

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    JRG, you don’t seem to understand that you don’t frame the form of interactions on this site, myself and my colleagues do.

    It is not your call to determine what is idiotic or sectarian and it is not permissable for you, or anyone, to use personalised abuse against anyone.

    No one had forced you to interact here and you have continued despite repeated requests from me to stop.

    I will not ask again. If you persist or repeat this behaviour you will be banned. This is a final warning.

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  • By: Pangur ban Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:22:11

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    It depends on how you view merrigans perception .
    He obviously bracketed on the basis of anti nationalism.

    But you could argue that as both OSF/WP and militant argued for some form of armed militias they could be bracketed together

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  • By: Paddy Healy Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:49:33

    It is often better to look at what people do rather than what they say in order to determine their positions. As National Secretary of the H-Block Trade Union Committee, it was my duty to organise work stoppages in support of the prisoners’ demands. These stoppages were numerous and became extensive after the death of Bobby Sands. All left wing groups except SP, WP ad DSP assisted in this work. Many who were opposed to the IRA campaign took part.
    My understanding of the SP position is that they see Irish Unity as a CONSEQUENCE of a “pure” socialist revolution. In this they differ from Connolly who saw the struggle for Irish unity as a key component of the struggle for socialism. “The cause of Ireland is the cause of Labour and the cause of Labour is the cause of Irelad”

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:37:02

    The Socialist Party did not participate in the H-Block Trade Union Committee because it supported republicanism. Most of the left-groups and grouplets in this country have always coat-tailed the republican movement.

    The Militant was the only group in the North (and the South) that promoted the five demands of the prisoners in a non-sectarian fashion and succeeded in getting motions supporting these demands passed through trade unions in the North (most significantly NIPSA) while left groups affiliated to the H-Block Trade Union Committee succeeded in doing nothing but stoking division and sectarianism in the trade unions in the North.

    As for your understanding of the Socialist Party’s position on Irish Unity – you are as far off base now as you were 30 years ago.

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  • By: Jolly Red Giant Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:37:44

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    Sorry P. ban – you will be wrong in your argument there again.

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  • By: NollaigO Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:57:05

    In reply to Jolly Red Giant.

    Take the major finance houses and the 500 largest companies into public ownership and place them under the democratic control and management of the working class.“.

    I have not found the reference to the 250. I may have got the exact number wrong but that is not the substantive point.
    The above reference from the document linked to in dilettante’s reference below supports my point. It’s contained in the “in the north” section only of “What We Stand For” and typifies the essentially Walkerite / Unionist outlook of that group.

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  • By: Paddy Healy Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:29:35

    There is nothing “sectarian” in seeking support for political status for republican prisoners and nothing “sectarian” about seeking such support from trade union bodies.
    The position of Militant/SP on Irish unity is set out in the Hadden documents which are referenced by Dilettante:
    “The reasons which caused us to drop ‘a socialist united Ireland’ as a slogan during the 1980s are even more powerfully valid today. Protestant workers see in this only the ‘united’, not the ‘socialist’. Posed thus baldly it would be a barrier to explanation, not a bridge.

    We have been putting forward the alternative formulation ‘for a socialist Ireland and a socialist federation of Britain and Ireland’. This remains the best way of presenting our ideas. The slogan is sufficiently open not to lead to mistaken interpretations, it is sufficiently removed from republican formulations not to immediately trigger Protestant sensitivities. It emphasises the need for socialism before it raises the specific nature of a socialist state in Ireland. Thus it points to the need to change society, not just remove a line from the map.”
    Not alone is Militant/SP not unconditionally calling for a united Ireland as Connolly did, it has dropped even the slogan of “a socialist united Ireland”. The capitualtion to reactionary loyalism is clear.

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